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Washington Women’s Heritage Project records, 1900-2000 
University of Washington Libraries Special Collections 
Diana Burgess (Note: Contains Personally Identifiable Information) 
January 16, 1998 
Cassette 1, Side 1 
 
 
Allison Card  00:02 
Okay, this is tape one of the oral history of Diana. Today is January 16, 1998. We'll begin by 
going over biographical information. Okay, can I get you to state your name, and also spell it for 
me so I spell it correct. 
 
Diana Burgess  00:24 
My name is Diana Burgess, and that's D-I-A-N-A, Burgess, B-U-R-G-E-S-S. 
 
Allison Card  00:36 
Okay, is that your maiden name or married name? 
 
Diana Burgess  00:39 
Yes. No, it's my maiden name. 
 
Allison Card  00:43 
Do you have any nicknames? 
 
Diana Burgess  00:47 
More than probably the tape will permit. Most of my family calls me Di or D. 
 
Allison Card  00:56 
Okay, and by Di, just D-I? 
 
Diana Burgess  00:58 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  00:59 
Okay. How do you consider yourself ethnic group? 
 
Diana Burgess  01:09 
African American, with-- boy, that's hard to put in words.  
 
Allison Card  01:16 
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Yeah, it is. 
 
Diana Burgess  01:18 
It's kind of like a melting pot. There's Indian on both parents side, but not from the same tribe. 
 
Allison Card  01:27 
Do you know the tribes? 
 
Diana Burgess  01:30 
Apache from my father's and Cheyenne from my mother. 
 
Allison Card  01:36 
Can you spell that for me? 
 
Diana Burgess  01:37 
Apache?  
 
Allison Card  01:39 
No, Cheyenne?  
 
Diana Burgess  01:39 
Cheyenne. I think it's C-H-E-Y-E-N-N-E. And then, we got German, and that's from my 
grandfather on my mother's side. 
 
Allison Card  02:02 
Okay. And can I get your address? 
 
Diana Burgess  02:05 
Mm-hmm. 1202 North Pearl, Apartment D, 203. It's Tacoma, Washington, 98-- what was it, 
98406. Boy, am I braindead. 
 
Allison Card  02:31 
And your telephone number. 
 
Diana Burgess  02:36 
253-756-6820. 
 
Allison Card  02:39 
6820? 
 
Diana Burgess  02:42 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  02:42 
And Diana, what's your date of birth? 
 
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Diana Burgess  02:48 
9/20, '46. 
 
Allison Card  02:52 
And where were you born? 
 
Diana Burgess  02:54 
In Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  03:01 
Okay, can I get your mother's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  03:04 
Yes, her name is-- her true name is Cora. That's C-O-R-A, Viola. And she goes by Viola. 
 
Allison Card  03:14 
Okay, and Viola's V-- 
 
Diana Burgess  03:15 
--V-I-O-L-A. 
 
Allison Card  03:15 
Just want to make sure we don't get any of the spellings wrong. And do you know her maiden 
name? 
 
Diana Burgess  03:21 
Brim. B-R-I-M. 
 
Allison Card  03:27 
So Cora Brim? 
 
Diana Burgess  03:28 
Uh-huh. 
 
Allison Card  03:30 
Date of birth? 
 
Diana Burgess  03:31 
Yeah, 9/21, '19. You guys were very close. I was her-- I always said I was a present from my dad 
to her. 
 
Allison Card  03:44 
Nice. And where was she born? 
 
Diana Burgess  03:54 
I'm thinking Houston. That's H-O-U-S-T-O-N, Pennsylvania. 
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Allison Card  04:09 
And for tribe, you said she was the Cheyenne? 
 
Diana Burgess  04:12 
Mm-hmm, but I don't know anything to know about any more than that. I don't know where that 
came in, who was part-what, I just have heard that throughout my life, you know. 
 
Allison Card  04:27 
So somewhere in her history, there's that. Is there any other way you would describe her 
nationality? 
 
Diana Burgess  04:35 
My mother's? 
 
Allison Card  04:36 
Yes. 
 
Diana Burgess  04:37 
African American. 
 
Allison Card  04:46 
Okay, do you know the date of her marriage? 
 
Diana Burgess  04:52 
October... I'm not sure, I want to say October 12. I don't know the year.  
 
Allison Card  05:02 
Alright, that's all-- 
 
Diana Burgess  05:03 
--I don't remember the year. 
 
Allison Card  05:06 
And you know where she was married? 
 
Diana Burgess  05:11 
Probably in Washington, Pennsylvania. I say probably, I'm pretty sure it was. 
 
Allison Card  05:23 
What was her occupation or job? 
 
Diana Burgess  05:27 
Housewife.  
 
Allison Card  05:28 
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Housewife. And is she still living?  
 
Diana Burgess  05:33 
Yes. 
 
Allison Card  05:34 
Okay. How many times was she married? 
 
Diana Burgess  05:38 
Just once. 
 
Allison Card  05:38 
Once. And how many children did she have?  
 
Diana Burgess  05:41 
Six. 
 
Allison Card  05:46 
Then we get all their names. 
 
Diana Burgess  05:50 
Starting with the oldest. 
 
Allison Card  06:06 
Okay, can I get your father's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  06:09 
Lloyd. L-L-O-Y-D, Burgess. 
 
Allison Card  06:20 
And his date of birth? 
 
Diana Burgess  06:23 
7-- 7/8, 1912. 
 
Allison Card  06:32 
And where was he born? 
 
Diana Burgess  06:34 
Houston, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  06:41 
And you said he was Apache? 
 
Diana Burgess  06:44 
Mm-hmm. 
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Allison Card  06:47 
And what other nationality would you describe him as? 
 
Diana Burgess  06:50 
African American. 
 
Allison Card  06:51 
And what was his occupation? 
 
Diana Burgess  07:00 
He was a truck driver. 
 
Allison Card  07:07 
And is he still living?  
 
Diana Burgess  07:16 
No, he's deceased.  
 
Allison Card  07:17 
When-- do you know the date he died?  
 
Diana Burgess  07:19 
Yeah, it was in October 23. I have to stop and think. '72, '73. 70-- 1975. 
 
Allison Card  07:23 
And where was he living at the time? 
 
Diana Burgess  07:25 
In Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  07:26 
And how many married-- times was he married?  
 
Diana Burgess  07:37 
Just once. 
 
Allison Card  07:39 
And children?  
 
Diana Burgess  07:40 
Six. 
 
Allison Card  07:41 
Six. Okay, did you have sisters in the six? 
 
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Diana Burgess  08:01 
Mm-hmm. Four sisters.  
 
Allison Card  08:03 
Okay, let's start with the first one. 
 
Diana Burgess  08:05 
Would be Carolyn. That's C-A-R-O-L-Y-N. 
 
Allison Card  08:13 
And her last name? 
 
Diana Burgess  08:15 
Smith. 
 
Allison Card  08:18 
And what day was she born? 
 
Diana Burgess  08:19 
Oh no, I just know her birthday. I really don't know the year.  
 
Allison Card  08:25 
Okay. 
 
Diana Burgess  08:27 
Her birthday is April 22. 
 
Allison Card  08:35 
And where was she born? 
 
Diana Burgess  08:37 
Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  08:40 
A lot of these questions are very similar. Is she married?  
 
Diana Burgess  08:59 
Yes.  
 
Allison Card  08:59 
And what's her spouse's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  09:00 
Alfred. A-L-F-R-E-D. 
 
Allison Card  09:01 
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And his last name's Smith? 
 
Diana Burgess  09:02 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  09:02 
Do you know what day they were married?  
 
Diana Burgess  09:04 
I have no idea. 
 
Allison Card  09:05 
And do you know where they were married? 
 
Diana Burgess  09:07 
There we go, Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  09:08 
That's nice, that everybody stays in the same place. Do you know the occupation of your sister? 
 
Diana Burgess  09:21 
Yeah, she is a Director for Wed-- Wednesday's Child. It's a adoption agency. She lives in 
Boston, Massachusetts. 
 
Allison Card  09:38 
And how many times has she been married? 
 
Diana Burgess  09:40 
Just once. 
 
Allison Card  09:46 
And you said she's living in Boston?  
 
Diana Burgess  09:50 
Just her, that one-- 
 
Allison Card  09:53 
--yeah-- 
 
Diana Burgess  09:53 
--my sister-- 
 
Allison Card  09:54 
--Carolyn's living in Boston? 
 
Diana Burgess  09:55 
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Yeah. 
 
Allison Card  09:55 
Okay, and that's [inaudible], that's [inaudible]. And does she have any children?  
 
Diana Burgess  10:00 
Two. 
 
Allison Card  10:02 
Can I get their names? 
 
Diana Burgess  10:04 
David-- Alfred. He's named after his father, but we call him David.  
 
Allison Card  10:08 
Okay. 
 
Diana Burgess  10:10 
So it would be Alfred David Jr., and Leslie. 
 
Allison Card  10:17 
And how do you spell last name? 
 
Diana Burgess  10:19 
L-E-S-L-I-E. 
 
Allison Card  10:27 
Okay, your next sister? 
 
Diana Burgess  10:29 
Sandra.  
 
Allison Card  10:30 
And can you spell that for me?  
 
Diana Burgess  10:32 
S-A-N-D-R-A. 
 
Allison Card  10:35 
And what's her last name?  
 
Diana Burgess  10:37 
Dudley, D-U-D-L-E-Y. 
 
Allison Card  10:42 
Okay. And do you know what day she was born? 
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Diana Burgess  10:45 
June 3. I'm bad with the years, you lie so much about them, you know, I've lost track [laughs]. 
 
Allison Card  10:57 
Okay, and where was she born?  
 
Diana Burgess  10:59 
Washington, Pennsylvania [laughs].  
 
Allison Card  11:00 
Is she married?  
 
Diana Burgess  11:05 
Yes.  
 
Allison Card  11:08 
And what's his name? 
 
Diana Burgess  11:09 
Clearence. That's C-L-E-A-R-A-N-C-E. Or is it E-N-C-E? Oh, I think it's E-N-C, 'cause we got 
A and it's like a sale. 
 
Allison Card  11:24 
It's like-- [laughs] I was gonna say it's a clearance sale. Okay, his last name is Dudley? 
 
Diana Burgess  11:30 
Uh-huh.  
 
Allison Card  11:30 
And do you know what date they were married? 
 
Diana Burgess  11:40 
No.  
 
Allison Card  11:40 
This is what it sort of talks about.  
 
Diana Burgess  11:44 
Okay. 
 
Allison Card  11:46 
Do you know where they were married? 
 
Diana Burgess  11:49 
Canonsburg, Pennsylvania, and it's C-A-N-O-N-S-B-U-R-G. 
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Allison Card  11:57 
See, there's something down. 
 
Diana Burgess  11:58 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  11:58 
Do you know her occupation? 
 
Diana Burgess  12:02 
Uh, I know this, I think... I think she's a checker for registers. So, cashier, I guess, is the word I'm 
trying to find. 
 
Allison Card  12:24 
And you said number of marriages was three? 
 
Diana Burgess  12:33 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  12:33 
And she's still living? 
 
Diana Burgess  12:35 
Yes. 
 
Allison Card  12:38 
And where is she residing now? 
 
Diana Burgess  12:39 
Canonsburg, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  12:41 
And how many children? Does she have children? 
 
Diana Burgess  12:51 
Uh-huh, I was just counting and thinking. Five. 
 
Allison Card  13:00 
Five. And can I get their names? 
 
Diana Burgess  13:04 
Lora, L-O-R-A. Kimberly, that's K-I-M-B-E-R-L-Y. Boyres, it's B-O-Y-R-E-S. Andrea, A-N-D-
R-E-A. And [inaudible] Jayia, J-A-Y-I-A. 
 
Allison Card  13:38 
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Okay, next one. Your next sister. 
 
Diana Burgess  13:42 
It would be Jean Anderson, J-E-A-N Anderson. [Inaudible]. 
 
Allison Card  13:53 
Okay, and her date of birth? 
 
Diana Burgess  13:59 
February 4. 
 
Allison Card  14:04 
Okay, where was she born? 
 
Diana Burgess  14:06 
Washington, Pennsylvania.  
 
Allison Card  14:08 
Is she married?  
 
Diana Burgess  14:13 
Yes.  
 
Allison Card  14:14 
And what's his name?  
 
Diana Burgess  14:16 
Fred. 
 
Allison Card  14:24 
And do you know what day they were married? 
 
Diana Burgess  14:26 
No, I don't.  
 
Allison Card  14:35 
And where were they married? 
 
Diana Burgess  14:31 
Washington, Pennsylvania.  
 
Allison Card  13:42 
We'll have to try and figure out why you left Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Diana Burgess  14:39 
Yeah, we'll get to that, believe me.  
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Allison Card  14:43 
Okay, jobs? 
 
Diana Burgess  14:46 
Job? 
 
Allison Card  14:47 
Yeah. Occupation. 
 
Diana Burgess  14:48 
She's a supervisor for the emergency service dispatch, or she could just say she's a city 
dispatcher. 
 
Allison Card  15:09 
Okay, and where does she reside now? 
 
Diana Burgess  15:12 
Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  15:19 
And does she have children? 
 
Diana Burgess  15:21 
She has three. Are you including stepchildren? 
 
Allison Card  15:26 
Um, how many marriages has she had? 
 
Diana Burgess  15:30 
Two?  
 
Allison Card  15:30 
You said two. Let's go ahead, I'll list them separate to make a distinction between them, but I'll 
write them both down. So the three, is that of her own first? 
 
Diana Burgess  15:41 
Uh-huh. 
 
Allison Card  15:42 
Okay, and what are their names? 
 
Diana Burgess  15:44 
Rhonda, R-H-O-N-D-A. Wait a minute, did I say R-H-O-N-D-A, yeah. Rhonda. 
 
Allison Card  15:51 
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Yeah. 
 
Diana Burgess  15:54 
Okay, Jon, J-O-N, and Juanita, J-U-A-N-I-T-A. 
 
Allison Card  16:01 
J-U-A-- A-N-I-T-A? 
 
Diana Burgess  16:04 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  16:04 
Okay, and then her step kids? 
 
Diana Burgess  16:06 
Would be Valerie, V-A-L-E-R-I-E, Denise, and Kevin.  
 
Allison Card  16:16 
And Denise, D-E-N-- 
 
Diana Burgess  16:17 
--I-S-E.  
 
Allison Card  16:18 
I-S-E. And then Kevin? 
 
Diana Burgess  16:21 
K-E-V-I-N. 
 
Allison Card  16:28 
Okay, the number of marriages, you said two. Your next sister? 
 
Diana Burgess  16:39 
Oh, would be Vicky, V-I-C-K-Y. 
 
Allison Card  16:41 
And her last name? 
 
Diana Burgess  16:42 
Miller, M-I-L-L-E-R. 
 
Allison Card  16:45 
And her date of birth? 
 
Diana Burgess  16:46 
9/18, '44. That's-- yeah, I remember hers because we're close. 
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Allison Card  16:49 
And she was born in Washington, Pennsylvania? 
 
Diana Burgess  16:54 
Yes. Good guess. And Jeanie was born in 1945. Sandy and Carolyn, and I don't have a clue.  
 
Allison Card  17:00 
And is she married?  
 
Diana Burgess  17:18 
Yes, she's a widower, her husband died. 
 
Allison Card  17:22 
Okay. And what was his name? 
 
Diana Burgess  17:28 
Wilbur, but everybody called him Gordon. This is W-I-L-B-U-R. Was in--  
 
Allison Card  17:36 
Was his actual name?  
 
Diana Burgess  17:37 
Yeah.  
 
Allison Card  17:37 
And then everyone else call him Gordon? 
 
Diana Burgess  17:39 
Uh-huh, G-O-R-D-O-N. 
 
Allison Card  17:40 
And how many times was she married?  
 
Diana Burgess  17:47 
Twice. 
 
Allison Card  17:48 
And do you remember what date they were married? 
 
Diana Burgess  18:01 
No, I don't. 
 
Allison Card  18:04 
Do you remember where they were married? 
 
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Diana Burgess  18:13 
Williamsburg, Virginia. 
 
Allison Card  18:25 
And what is her occupation? 
 
Diana Burgess  18:28 
Factory worker. 
 
Allison Card  18:38 
And where does she live now?  
 
Diana Burgess  18:40 
Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  18:46 
And how many children does she have?  
 
Diana Burgess  18:47 
One son. His name is Rick, R-I-C-K. 
 
Allison Card  18:56 
Okay, your brother. 
 
Diana Burgess  19:01 
My brother. His name is Leroy, but we call him Stanley, and it's Leroy is L-E-R-O-Y, and 
Stanley, S-T-A-N-L-E-Y. 
 
Allison Card  19:12 
Okay. And his last name is- 
 
Diana Burgess  19:16 
--Burgess, mm-hmm-- 
 
Allison Card  19:16 
--Burgess. And what was his date of birth? 
 
Diana Burgess  19:23 
March 16. And I think he was born in '40... I don't want to guess, because I know it's kind of like 
stairs from Vicky to Jeanies, like a year between them, I think. 
 
Allison Card  19:44 
Okay. On any of the information, if you do want put in later, you can just give it to me at a 
different time.  
 
Diana Burgess  19:49 
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Oh, okay. 
 
Allison Card  19:49 
And I can write it next time. And so-- 
 
Diana Burgess  19:51 
--see if I can find out for sure. 
 
Allison Card  19:52 
Right, because when people read back on it, you don't want the dates messed up. 
 
Diana Burgess  19:52 
Yeah, I know.  
 
Allison Card  19:55 
And he was born in Washington, Pennsylvania? 
 
Diana Burgess  20:00 
Uh-huh. So if any of the children was born at home, do-- should I indicate, because everybody 
wasn't born in a hospital? I mean... 
 
Allison Card  20:09 
We'll get in-- why don't we get into that when we talk about-- like, right when we're done with 
this, we're going to go to your family. 
 
Diana Burgess  20:14 
Okay. 
 
Allison Card  20:15 
And you can talk about your siblings and where they were born and stuff.  
 
Diana Burgess  20:17 
Okay. 
 
Allison Card  20:19 
And is he married? 
 
Diana Burgess  20:22 
Yes. Okay, yes, he's married, 
 
Allison Card  20:27 
Okay. And what's his spouse's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  20:29 
Ann.  
 
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Allison Card  20:29 
And is there an E on that?  
 
Diana Burgess  20:41 
Mm-mm.  
 
Allison Card  20:41 
And do you know what day they were married? And do you know where they were married? 
Washington, Pennsylvania? 
 
Diana Burgess  20:49 
No, Detroit, Michigan. And that's where he resides. 
 
Allison Card  21:01 
Okay, what's his occupation? 
 
Diana Burgess  21:04 
Computer analyst. 
 
Allison Card  21:13 
And how many times has he been married? 
 
Diana Burgess  21:16 
Three times. 
 
Allison Card  21:20 
And does he have children? 
 
Diana Burgess  21:23 
Mm-hmm. Three boys. 
 
Allison Card  21:31 
Three boys. And can I get their names?  
 
Diana Burgess  21:39 
Okay, Roy is the first one. R-O-Y, and-- oh, I have this one blank. I'm sorry, it'll come to me. 
Oh, Harold, H-A-R-O-L-D. And Christopher. [Microphone drops.] 
 
Allison Card  21:47 
And that's C-H-R-I-S-T-O-P-H-E-R? 
 
Diana Burgess  21:59 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  22:02 
And you have one other brother?  
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Diana Burgess  22:07 
No. 
 
Allison Card  22:08 
Okay. So the-- oh, number of children says seven includes you. Alright, grandparents. 
 
Diana Burgess  22:20 
Grandparents. 
 
Allison Card  22:21 
Your grandmother's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  22:23 
Okay, my mother or father, does it matter which? 
 
Allison Card  22:27 
Maternal grandmother. 
 
Diana Burgess  22:28 
So, my mom. 
 
Allison Card  22:29 
Right. 
 
Diana Burgess  22:30 
Her name was Cora Brim. 
 
Allison Card  22:34 
Cora Brown? 
 
Diana Burgess  22:35 
Brim. 
 
Allison Card  22:35 
Brim. And what was her maiden name? 
 
Diana Burgess  22:39 
Webster. 
 
Allison Card  22:42 
W-E-B-S-T-E-R? 
 
Diana Burgess  22:45 
Uh-huh. 
 
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Allison Card  22:48 
And how would you categorize her for nationality? 
 
Diana Burgess  22:53 
African American. 
 
Allison Card  22:59 
Anything else?  
 
Diana Burgess  23:00 
And she had a mix of Cheyenne, that's all I know. I didn't know my grandfather, he was dead 
long before I was born. My mother never talked about him.  
 
Allison Card  23:10 
Okay, that's fine. Do you know when your grandmother was born? 
 
Diana Burgess  23:15 
No. 
 
Allison Card  23:18 
Okay, do you know where she was born? 
 
Diana Burgess  23:25 
I could guess, but I'm not sure. Of course, Washington, Pennsylvania, but I'm not sure. 
 
Allison Card  23:31 
Okay, I'll leave that blank and let's mark that. 
 
Diana Burgess  23:32 
Okay, because I could find out. 
 
Allison Card  23:35 
Do you know what day she was married or where she was married?  
 
Diana Burgess  23:39 
No. 
 
Allison Card  23:39 
Okay. Do you know her occupation? 
 
Diana Burgess  23:43 
Domestic or maid, housekeeping. 
 
Allison Card  23:53 
And is she deceased?  
 
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Diana Burgess  23:54 
Yes.  
 
Allison Card  23:54 
Do you know what day she died?  
 
Diana Burgess  23:57 
No. 
 
Allison Card  23:57 
Okay. And do you know where? 
 
Diana Burgess  23:59 
Washington, Pennsylvania. 
 
Allison Card  24:04 
How many times was she married? 
 
Diana Burgess  24:09 
I think twice. 
 
Allison Card  24:13 
And how many children does she have? 
 
Diana Burgess  24:15 
She had a lot. Okay, let's-- let me start; one, two... Wanna say six. 
 
Allison Card  24:30 
Six. And can I get their names?  
 
Diana Burgess  24:36 
I knew you were gonna say that. Okay, Hazel-- 
 
Allison Card  24:42 
--and spell-- 
 
Diana Burgess  24:42 
--H-A-Z-E-L. Charles. 
 
Allison Card  25:06 
M-A-R-I-E? 
 
Allison Card  25:06 
L-E-S? 
 
Diana Burgess  25:06 
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Uh-huh. Suburba, that's S-U-- S-U-B-U-R-A. Is it R? Yeah, Suburba. Marie. 
 
Diana Burgess  25:09 
Uh-huh. Another Cora, Viola's what we call her. And I can't remember what [?Michael?] 
Buddy's name was. For right now, just put Buddy, because I can't remember what his true name 
was. 
 
Allison Card  25:31 
Now, on your mother's name, Cora Viola. What was-- was Viola her actual last name? 
 
Diana Burgess  25:39 
No, that was her-- that's the name she goes by. Cora Viola is her full name. 
 
Allison Card  25:44 
Okay. What is her last name, then? 
 
Diana Burgess  25:49 
Her-- Burgess. 
 
Allison Card  25:51 
Oh, right. And so Brim was the maiden name.  
 
Diana Burgess  25:54 
Yes. 
 
Allison Card  26:00 
Do you know your maternal grandfather's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  26:04 
Joseph. 
 
Allison Card  26:05 
Joseph. And Burgess?  
 
Diana Burgess  26:10 
Yes. 
 
Allison Card  26:17 
Now let's see, in case you do know, do you know when he was born or where? 
 
Diana Burgess  26:21 
No. I never knew either of my grandfathers. In fact, I never knew a grandfather.  
 
Allison Card  26:28 
They passed away before-- 
 
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Diana Burgess  26:31 
--They were dead. They had died long before I was born. 
 
Allison Card  26:40 
Do you know where he died?  
 
Allison Card  26:41 
Okay. What about your paternal grandmother's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  26:41 
No. 
 
Diana Burgess  26:52 
Emma Patterson.  
 
Allison Card  26:54 
E-M-M-A? 
 
Diana Burgess  26:58 
Uh-huh. 
 
Allison Card  26:59 
P-A-T-T-E-R-S-O-N? 
 
Diana Burgess  27:00 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  27:03 
And what was her maiden name? 
 
Diana Burgess  27:27 
Patterson was her maiden name. 
 
Allison Card  27:28 
Okay, does she have a married name?  
 
Diana Burgess  27:29 
Burgess. 
 
Allison Card  27:30 
And how would you describe her nationality? 
 
Diana Burgess  27:31 
African American, and she had Indian, Apache. Portion of Apache, she was not full-blood or 
anything.  
 
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Allison Card  27:43 
Okay. Do you know what her date of birth was, or where she was born? 
 
Diana Burgess  27:49 
No. 
 
Allison Card  27:56 
Do you know when she was married or where? 
 
Diana Burgess  27:58 
No, I don't. 
 
Allison Card  28:00 
What about her occupation? 
 
Diana Burgess  28:02 
Far as I know, she was just a housewife. 
 
Allison Card  28:09 
Is she deceased? 
 
Diana Burgess  28:09 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  28:10 
Do you know when she died, or where?  
 
Diana Burgess  28:11 
No, would just be a guess. I was gonna say '68, but I can't remember for certain. 
 
Allison Card  28:22 
How about number of marriages?  
 
Diana Burgess  28:24 
Far as I know, just one. 
 
Allison Card  28:26 
One? And did she have children?  
 
Diana Burgess  28:54 
Yes, think five. 
 
Allison Card  28:55 
And can I get their names? 
 
Diana Burgess  28:56 
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Mm-hmm. Lloyd, L-L-O-Y-D. Ralph, R-A-L-P-H. Elwood, E-L-W-O-O-D. 
 
Allison Card  28:59 
E-L-W-O-O-D? 
 
Diana Burgess  29:00 
Mm-hmm. And Harold. 
 
Allison Card  29:01 
H-A-R-O-L-D? 
 
Diana Burgess  29:01 
Mm-hmm. And Esther.  
 
Allison Card  29:03 
E-S-T-E-R? 
 
Diana Burgess  29:04 
 E-S-- hang on, E-S-T-H-E-R. E-S-T-H-- yeah.  
 
Allison Card  29:09 
Okay. Do you know your paternal grandfather's name? 
 
Diana Burgess  29:20 
Charles, Charles. 
 
Allison Card  29:21 
Okay. And his last name is Burg-- Burgess? How do you pronounce that? I don't think I'm 
pronouncing it right.  
 
Diana Burgess  29:30 
Burgess.  
 
Allison Card  29:31 
Burgess. Do you know when he was born or where? 
 
Diana Burgess  29:37 
No. 
 
Allison Card  29:39 
What about nationality? 
 
Diana Burgess  29:48 
Um, okay, let's see, he was German and he was Caucasian. 
 
Allison Card  30:02 
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Do you know his occupation? 
 
Diana Burgess  30:04 
Coal miner. 
 
Allison Card  30:09 
And is he deceased?  
 
Diana Burgess  30:10 
Yes.  
 
Allison Card  30:10 
And do you know when or where? 
 
Diana Burgess  30:12 
No. 
 
Allison Card  30:13 
How about number of marriages? 
 
Diana Burgess  30:16 
I think just my grandmother, just one. 
 
Allison Card  30:19 
And children, same five? 
 
Diana Burgess  30:30 
Mm-hmm. 
 
Allison Card  30:30 
Now, do I have this... Burgess was the last name of both your maternal and your paternal 
grandfather.  
 
Diana Burgess  30:34 
No, did I give you that?  
 
Allison Card  30:35 
Yeah, you said Joseph Burgess and then Charles Burgess. 
 
Diana Burgess  30:43 
'Cause Joseph is my father's-- my dad's father, and Charles is my mother's. 
 
Allison Card  30:51 
So that one-- 
 
Diana Burgess  30:54 
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--that would be-- 
 
Allison Card  30:55 
--Charles is the one that's... different. 
 
Diana Burgess  30:56 
Yeah, it would-- his last name would have been Brim. 
 
Allison Card  30:59 
B-R-I-M. 
 
Diana Burgess  31:00 
Mm-hmm.  
 
Allison Card  31:00 
Okay. Now your children. 
 
Diana Burgess  31:10 
Two. 
 
Allison Card  31:10 
You have two children. 
 
Diana Burgess  31:13 
Mark--[tape cuts off]. 